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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:45 pm 
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The next monthly is Sunday 9/25 at the buzz bag.

We can have crushed stone and 2X4's available if we want to do some tees. We spoke about reparing the worse tees and putting in a couple hours after the monthly. We can have pizza delivered. Noah said he collected over $400 in course funds this year. Is anyone interested in leading this effort? I can't promise that I will be there but I can arrange all of the delivery etc.

I imagine tees such as 3,7,14,15,16,17, and 18 would be first.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:54 pm 
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Less than 2 weeks away, is there any interest to have a pile of stonedust waiting for us after the buzzys monthly? Or do we want to tee off in puddles and let our course cash sit in noahs sock drawer?

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Sorry, but I'm out.

You know I'd usually be at a Skylands workday, but I've got company coming the next two weekends and I'm STILL cleaning up the mess that Irene left in my yard. Once I've got my own stuff in order, I'll be happy to work on Skylands stuff.

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My weekends always seem to get busy the week-of if they get busy at all so I can't guarantee being at the monthly but if I am, I should be able to stay. What are the odds that a few of us can't be guilted into it during payouts even if we aren't stepping up in advance? I'd say lets do it. Worst case scenario we would just have to find some time in the following week or so to get down there after work or whatever.


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i'll be there. i can bring a shovel and stiff rakes.

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I can't commit to the monthly yet. If I do make it, I will definitely stick around and work on some tees.

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nice, ill price stuff out and post back. It may make sense to wait if we are lacking things like wheelbarrows and a pick up truck but I'll see what the options are.

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Im in for the monthly, and the tee work afterwords. I dont have a truck or a wheelbarrow, My shovel is at Warwick, I'll pick it up this weekend. I'll grab a few actually, and what ever picks are up there. Is there a wheelbarrow in the shed?

could we use the agpack to move gravel? Does it have a small trailer? That would be much easier on our backs, but we would need someone with a landscaping trailer to bring it down.

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I got a wheelbarrow

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Marshall Hill Materials (located 5 minutes from Buzzys) charges $50/bucket for the stone dust. their smaller truck holds 3 buckets which equates to 3 3/4 yards. The total cost to us delivered would be $ 192.60.

We want to avoid having Marshall Hill dump anything at the course becuase the town could get pissed.

We have a truck lined up, thank you!

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Cuts wrote:
Marshall Hill Materials (located 5 minutes from Buzzys) charges $50/bucket for the stone dust. their smaller truck holds 3 buckets which equates to 3 3/4 yards. The total cost to us delivered would be $ 192.60.

We want to avoid having Marshall Hill dump anything at the course becuase the town could get pissed.

We have a truck lined up, thank you!


Can you notify the town so they are aware of our doings? Lets keep them in the loop.

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I called the town parks department. I was told that the Recreation Commitee is who we need to seek approval from. I was told that someone has to go to the meeting and propose to the committee what we want to accomplish. The meeting is tonight at 7:30 pm in the Hillscrest Center. The next meeting is in October.

I pretty much expected this when I made the call. It will take someone to stand up and speak about what we as a club want to do, what is disc golf, what is a tee box, etc.

With such late notice I cant attend tonights meeting. But I am emailing the person in charge of the committee today. Hopefully the minor improvements that we want to do can just be approved directly by him.

If we are uncomfortable to be seen with wheel barrows and shovels without proper approval then we hold off, until we can get to a meeting and pitch our plan,

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uugh, I just saw this... #-o Hopefully the email you sent will be enough and we can get approval.
So, if the email is a nay, do we do it anyway and risk getting crap from the town, or push it out to October and just have a work day? We have wanted to do this for a very looooong time, and if the parks commission sees a big pile of gravel and they dont know about it, well that may cause problems for course improvements down the road, and generally piss off the parks commission and the town... My opinion is we get approval first, then plan a workday. Thats my 2 cents.

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There is still a good amount of improvements we can do at the course without importing any materials. There are a bunch of tees that can be leveled and lengthened using whats at the park. We can also dig up some of the material they use in the parking lot and compact it into the the tees. I will bring a wheel barrow and i also have the tamper from Campgaw.
It does suck to go through the red tape, but in the end it's the right thing to do and it will make us look better in the towns eye. They should welcome the fact that their is a group of people who want to, and does, improve their park.

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Well I'm game to do what ever work we can do after the monthly, there is much to do.
Lets give Buzzys a much needed facelift!

En CaptJ sayz... Srubb thar sail'in decks aye say!!!! We need tar get er ready fer thar winter games! Aye! :twisted:

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agreed. I have approached the town before in the past regarding use of an indoor area for putting and my emails and calls were ignored. I would be willing to go to a meeting and present but for now I like Scowards idea. Unless we have approval we won't bring outside materials into the park and we can use wha'ts there.

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sounds good to me. i think we can sneak in a few new toe boards with making a stink if anyone (szy) has some lumber around.

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rev. noah wrote:
sounds good to me. i think we can sneak in a few new toe boards with making a stink if anyone (szy) has some lumber around.


I like stinky toe boards..... sorta like my shoes after a round....

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the present toe boards were purchased at home depot. they were 2x4s cut in half to 4 foot lengths for free by the depot and i drilled them and attached them with 12 inch nails and large flat washers. i put plastic down and spray painted them on the tables at the park. even bought a stencil kit to number them. i will be there for monthly and whatever work is to be done after. THE PAST

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Cuts wrote:
The next monthly is Sunday 9/25 at the buzz bag.

and 2X4's available if we want to do some tees.


Cuts, whats available in the 2x4 area? Roaches toe board shop sounds spot on.

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i just found some preasure treated 2x6 i'll bring 2 or 3 toe boards.

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also, I'll be bring registration forms and accepting payments for Buzzy's Ace Race (10/2) at Buzzy's Monthly.

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No PT 2x4's in stock but i'll keep my eyes open for some in the next week.

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uugh, I was at Warwick on Saturday and forgot to pickup shovels and picks from the shed. Anyone close to warwick, that knows the combination, that will be going to the Monthly, that can pick up tools for the Monthly?

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Craig,

Thank you for your e-mail. If you are available I would love to have an opportunity to meet you at Brown's Point with my Park's Supervisor to discuss your plans. Please let me know a date and time that you are available.

Sincerely,
Keith Knudsen, Director
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Township of West Milford

I told him I would meet him this Friday at 330 pm or any day next week after 330 pm. What else should I request?

Mulch around the baskets?
Stone dust for Tees?

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that's awesome cuts. I think stone dust would be great; a picture of a tee from wolfe woods may be helpful (i think there is one on the wolfe woods thread). If you'd like me to join you i'd be happy to, though i'm sure you don't need me.

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cuts, request a cleanup of downed trees and debris. we could have them out on an ongoing basis as we clean up the course. make new piles and have them removed twice a year, and plant some low growing vegatation in the woods to stop the errosion. Roach

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Just have Roach meet the guy and scream some "Blarghs" in his face.

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"Cuts, whats available in the 2x4 area? Roaches toe board shop sounds spot on."

Home Depot is your spot, show receipts to Noah and he can provide reimbursement.

Noah, pizzas sunday?

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Cuts wrote:

Noah, pizzas sunday?


we can do that - do you demarco's will deliver to the park?

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What time is the monthly, 10:00?


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i was thinking 10:00

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Cuts wrote:
"Cuts, whats available in the 2x4 area? Roaches toe board shop sounds spot on."

Home Depot is your spot, show receipts to Noah and he can provide reimbursement.

Noah, pizzas sunday?


So who is gonna pick up the 2x4s? I have a home depot down the street from my house, I can buy 9 pressure treated 2x4s and have HD cut them all in half, and toss them in my wagon, and what about the 12 inch nails, anyone got them? Or should I buy them as well, Pick up a mailbox? Give me some info here crew! Aye? :D

Are we gonna reuse some of the old ones? Can we reuse the 12 inch nails? Are we replacing ALL the toeboards? Is the sky falling? What time is it? Where am I? How did I get here? I need a list! :lol:

Hey Now! we need power? I have a small generator.....

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The rec director just called me and postponed our meeting. He's running late and they get off work at 2:30. We plan to meet next week.

I say we continue with our plan and level the tees with shovels, cut roots out etc. I also think we should get at least one load of stone dust and do a few tees the right way so I can show them when we eventually meet.

I feel like if we postpone the work effort we will lose momentum. I dont see the harm in cleaning up the course and re-doing a few bad tees.

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Yep, lets keep the momentum going.

Who can pickup the shovels from the Warwick shed?, We need some flat rakes as well.

how many tees does "one load" of stone dust cover?

I guess we will wait on the toe boards, right?

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We should do a handful of the worse tees (3,10,14,17,18). We absolutly need toeboards to do the tees the right way. When I eventually meet with the parks I want to show them to quality of our work. Plus without toe boards and even side boards on some tees, the stone dust will just wash away.

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5 tees

Tees will be 5 x 11
Materials:
18 - pressure treated 2x4s - $36
50 - Galvanized 12 in nails - 50 LB box = $75 (If I can find a smaller quantity I will)
50 - 1 in zinc crown washers $5
OR - 50 pieces 1/2 x 12in rebar $55
1 gal Raincoat water repellent - redwood color $20

Approx $140 total

- 5 tees
- all pressure treated wood
- All wood cut to size and painted prior to sundays build
- 8 - 2x4s cut in 5 ft x 3 ft sections
- 10 - 2x4s not cut
- 2 holes drilled in each piece ( on the 2 inch side)
- 10 - 12in nails per tee, - total 50 nails-

Tees will consist of a 5 ft toe board,
Sides will consist of an 8 ft and 3 ft piece on each side.
10 nails and washers per tee

will the 12 in nails be long enough to keep the tee box in place?
Should we go redwood water repellent stain or white concrete paint? (White may be hard to see in the snow)

I'll get all the stuff at Home depot.

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My gut feeling is do it once nice, I would like to see 4x4's hammered in with 2' rebar like the beautiful job Nick ans Derek did in WW. More work, some more cost but I think it would be worth it. 2c

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Im not gonna fit that much wood in my honda wagon... If we go 4x4s Im gonna need a truck.`

How many years will we get out of the 2x4s?

50 - 1/2 in. x 2 ft. Rebar - 1.60 each $80
18- 4 x 4 x 8 pressure treated - $7 each - $126
1 gal Raincoat water repellent - redwood color $20

Its not that much more... I'm In for it, but I cant get this to buzzys...
help..... :shock:

we probably dont need the raincoat...

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I can fit wood for 4 tees in my wagon, so 4 tees it is.
Were going 4x4 pressure treated, No stain/paint and 24 in rebar

2nd Edit:
Just got off the phone with Adam, hes gonna pickup the wood and rebar.

There is some discussion about having side walls or not.
My opinion is we need sidewalls to retain the stonedust. Otherwise its just gonna wash away when it rains.
Whats your opinion?

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i think some will need the side wall and some won't. 17 just needs one on the down hill side, 14 doesn't need any, 3 might need be closed on all sides.

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Materials picked up-we're set to go. Also I'll grab shovels/rakes from the warwick shed plus I have a pick/good cordless drill (for holes in wood for rebar). I won't be able to work long, gotta leave for training for my job but maybe Nick can hold onto the drill or whatever and I'll get it back.
I picked up enough lumber for 6 toe boards and 3 sides for tees, plus rebar. We'll figure it all out.


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cool, Thanks Adam. And sounds about right Rev. Im looking forward to giving Buzzys some much needed TLC.

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Nice, Toe boards are great on some tees, not needed on others, I take back what I said about enclosing the sides of the tees. That limits the tee area, we can grade the dirt and prevent erosion rather than box out anything. Like Noah said, only certain sides may need reinforcement, bah!

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gents. Great Monthly yesterday. I however did not know about work day until I got there. I do not visit this forum as often as I probably should :roll: I was not prepared to stay and give a few hours. I dont know how to get the word out any differently but there may be others who found themselves in this awkward moment especially as Jaybird announced my name and asked "is that an American flag on your shirt!?!" :shock: :oops: I am well informed of the workday that will follow the Warwick Monthly on the 9th. Anyway, in case any others arent quite paying enough attention to "work days" like me maybe they too would be more than willing and able to lend a hand those days if somehow it can be communicated in a more efficient manner. I am just an outsider hanging on the coat tails of all of those who truly make the club "TICK" and I offer no solution. :( I know, I know.........SO SHUT THE HELL UP!! :? hey........."I'm just sayin..ya know?"

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don't feel guilt, it's all good. Lend a hand when you can and when you can't, no worries. We seem to plan work day's after club events becuase if we dont, they don't seem to happen.

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workday? when? board? where? what can i do? CLUELESS IN A BOTTLE

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results:

Pros:
Scoward 43 $70
Brinster 45 $45
Cuts 47 $25
Adam 51
Nick 53
Bednarz 53
Sean (i'm not taking this tag) Healy 57

Ams:
Jacob 54 $45
Bandream 56 $22.50
Greg 56 $22.50
DaveH 57
Lesli 57
Moe 61

Recs:
Chris G - ctp 56 $30
Roach 56 $24
Jeff C 57 $18
MattF 58 $12
DonnieC 59 $6
Noah 61
Mike C 61
Alicia 63

Two weeks until the Warwick Monthly (and workday)
I need to get the binder and ace pot to someone

Again huge thanks to all who gave some much need love to buzzy's tees; we're far from done but it's a great start. no worries for those who couldn't stay.

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workday? when? board? where? what can i do? CLUELESS IN A BOTTLE

did you get your $5?

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i searched the results column and i could not find jbyrds 67 so since he obviously didnt play i guess i dont get my 5 bucks. aarrgghhh.

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